Stephen Bradley: Podcast

Stephen Bradley appeared on the Heroin Has a Great Publicist podcast to talk about his early days touring with No Doubt, performing in Las Vegas for Gwen’s residency, and many other things. Listen or download below.

Rough Transcript

What’s up, everyone? It’s episode 42. It’s a different approach for us, this episode, because we are filming live. So we have, without question, no-one watching, so that’s good -

Not yet.

Not yet. But when you see this, we’ll have known that you’re going to have looked for it. It’s pretty cool. Today on the show I’m super excited. I have with me a multi-musician, uh, instrument - multi-instrumentalist and very talented person, Mr. Stephen Bradley.


What’s up, brother?

What’s up? What’s up?

Stephen, you’ve played with No Doubt for, what, twenty-three years?

Twenty-three years, yes. Since 1995, the summer of 1995, so.

I read, or you told me, cos I mean you and I have basically - You and I are the only people the same age who go to The Den. 


Like so we’re in the same high school. 

The Hall of Fame loser club.

Yeah, that’s right. Exactly. Can you believe we’re still here?


So everybody’s nice to us. And I think we were talking and you said that you went in for, you didn’t even go in, someone asked you. Someone called you to sit in for the trumpet player.


And then you just stayed on.

Right, yeah. But, um, if I could unfold that a little bit. 

Please. Unpack.

I was playing in another band. This was up in the Bay Area because I used to live up there. Oakland, Berkeley area. So I got a call from the bass player of a band that I was playing in, a local funk band. He knew Tony who plays with No Doubt. They were friends because No Doubt used to be like a club band. Had toured extensively. West Coast. Blah blah blah. 


So I got a call that said, ‘Hey, No Doubt’s comin’ to town.’ I’d seen them before, I knew who they were. They were looking for a trumpet player, and I was like, and he was like, ‘Are you available?’ I was like, ‘Yeah, sure. Have him get in touch with me’ or whatever. So Tony gets on the phone with me and he’s like, ‘Hey, we’re playing this show at the Great American Music Hall.’ I don’t know if you’re familiar with that venue in San Francisco, but it’s - 

I’ve heard of it but I’ve never played it.

Yeah, yeah. At the time, it was like probably the biggest venue that I’d ever played.


It was like sold out.

Was Gwen singing at this point, or was she still backing?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is right before they release Tragic Kingdom. Actually they had - I don’t know what they call it - the promotional copies of Tragic Kingdom. They were basically mixes. And like approving different mixes for - Like Mix 6 on Spiderwebs, whatever. That’s - They were right before that. 


So - But it’s kinda funny because they sent me the music or the CD and whatever, and I never got it. 

Right. Cos it went to your neighbor.

It went to my neighbor. And my neighbor was like feuding with us or something. He would drunk and say weird things to my Mom, so I like confronted him. Whole other story. So the day before the gig, I’m like, ‘Hey, did you send the mixes?’ And he’s like, ‘Yeah.’ I was like screw it. So I stayed up all night with sheet music, charting out stuff. And I was learning it kind of by memory but I was like, I might need to write all of this out. They were staying at the Phoenix Hotel. So I show up the next day and I probably had like three hours of sleep. I didn’t fix my hair; I just took like a handkerchief. I show up and they’re like - It’s funny, because I still remember to this day, they were like by the pool and they were still kind of like ska kids. But they still had that kind of SoCal, Gwen had the bleach blonde hair and everything, cool sunglasses. And they - And I was like, Man, these guys are pretty cool. They got a little vibe and shit, you know. 


I met everybody and she was, she looks at me and goes, ‘Oh, you’re cute!’ When she said that, I kinda knew that - I was like, all I gotta do is not be a complete - 

Don’t fuck it up.

Yeah. So I went right to - They had another room where Gabriel - They had another horn player, trombone player, another guy who plays horns. [He] was there. And we just went over parts until the gig kind of thing 

So what were some of the songs that they sent you to learn? Were they stuff off Tragic Kingdom?

Uh, there were a few that they were playing off Tragic Kingdom but also stuff was like - They had two earlier records. One was the first record that they got signed on, Interscope/Trauma. It’s called, it’s just the first one. It’s more ska, more kind of cartoon-y. Her brother wrote a lot of the songs on that and they’re still - Their sound hadn’t evolved to what it is now.

And then he went to work on The Simpsons or for The Simpsons? As a cartoonist, as an illustrator?

Animator. Yeah. And he did all the original No Doubt artwork.


Like all the T-shirts, all the logos, you know.

I always wondered why Bart Simpson was all over them.

Yeah. And then there’s another band friend, Eric Keyes - which, it’s kind of confusing - who also worked as an animator for The Simpsons. 


Like there was a year we had a laminate and it was like, they drew us all as The Simpsons.

Oh wow.

It’s pretty cool. 

So you show up for one gig. Gwen, not famous yet. None of the band is huge. And like ’95 is when the actual record comes out. 


So then, when it hits, you stay on tour for twenty-seven months. Is that what I read?


Twenty-seven months. So it started, the Great American Show that you’re talking about, that was the biggest place that you played at the time. But that was nothing compared to what you guys started to do.

No. Well, the very next show, it was the Warped tour.


So after the gig, that gig, Adrian - the drummer - was talking to me. He was like, ‘Hey, you don’t realize it but you’re about to play with this band.’ And I was like, yeah, okay, whatever. So I was still living with my parents, going to school, bussing tables, blah blah blah. A week later, I get another phone call from Tony. He’s like, ‘Hey, we’re doing this thing called the Warped tour, it’s like brand new. We’re just going to do like Vancouver down to LA or something. You wanna do it?’ And I was like, yeah. I remember, I had my little last day at work thing. They had a little party for me.


I’m telling my friends I’m doing this, and they’re like, ‘Who? What? What are you doing?’ So back then, obviously no cell phones. I don’t even know if pagers - I guess pagers were out but I don’t think I had one. They were coming up the 5 and they were just driving north. I lived in the Bay Area and they were going to meet me in Sacramento at a truck stop. 


Cos you couldn’t just like - And you had to do it at like a pre-determined time. This-ish. So my Dad rolls me out there. We were sitting in the car, I had my luggage and stuff. And they pull up in a bus. Sssshhhh. Tssss. And they all come out. Pops comes out, shaking hands with or whatever, throwing my suitcase in the thing. And then it was like, they all got back on the bus and I remember, he goes, ‘Good luck, son!’ Hahaha. Tssss. After some years, I was like, what the hell were you thinking? Like you just giving your son away to - I mean, it turned out to be safe as far as rock bands go, but it could’ve been - What were you thinking? 

How old were you at the time?

Twenty-two, twenty-three. 

So you’ve basically, you’ve never hit the lottery but you’ve kinda hit the lottery at that point.

Well, I’d never toured before.


This was the first time they’d had a bus, so. And everything sort of started getting - So the next gig we did, we drove all the way to Vancouver and it was like the old Canucks arena or whatever, the old team. And it was like half pipes and bands and sidestages and it just kicked off from there. 

It was nuts.


So what was the point where, like, so when you were, when it was happening? Did it kick in, like was it gigantic? I remember watching a Behind the Music and I don’t know if it was the guitar player or if it was the drummer, where he started talking about how there was a point where your record was selling either 100,000 units a week or a 1,000,000 units a week. And he said, in the Behind the Music, he goes, ‘We’re good. We’re not that good.’ But my question is, as big as that was, when Don’t Speak was released, did it go to another level? 

Yeah, that was the song that kind of took them out of the alternative band room and took them into like the Top 40 room. You know what I mean. Cos we were - They kind of thought of themselves as like a ska, kind of punk, kind of hardcore - Not like a punk band, but out of that tradition. They played with a lot of those bands, they played a lot of those clubs and stuff like that. They wrote pop songs but that definitely - The kind of shows and the kind of bands we played with was from that tradition. But when that song did what it did, like I said, it kind of definitively took them from the alternative - Cos that was the thing back in the nineties. There was like alternative, where like 120 Minutes or MTV and the charts and all that stuff. But that song was like, okay, this song is Top 40, Top of the Pops. Cos I think it went Number 1 in England like a week or something. It was crazy.

Doesn’t it hold a record of like sixteen or twelve weeks in a row as Number 1 song on Billboard Hot 100? 

Yeah. I’m not the guy to know that kind of stuff.

Oh no. I looked it up.

You looked it up? Oh, okay. 

Told you, I did the deep dive today.

I remember, we were, there was a time, we were in New York, I think, when either Don’t Speak or the album or something went Number 1. I just remember we got so fucking hammered. [nonsense noises] Something weird happened that night, I don’t know, but I specifically remember, like we - It was like the night that it happened or the day that it happened and we just went fucking ballistic. 

So answer honestly. 


You can be truthful. So you’ve been all over the world performing music. Arenas, sheds, you’ve done like thousands and thousands of people. 


Did you do the Super Bowl?


K. So you’ve done the Super Bowl, so millions and millions of people were watching you. What was more exciting? When you did that, or the one night that you played with me at Laugh Factory and there was thirty people there? I mean, be honest. I know it’s a tough call. 

Why’d you have to put me on the spot?

I think the audience deserves to know.

Yeah. Hmm. Can I get back to you on that one? 

Yeah, that’s fine. We can circle back. I’m just gonna write ‘circle back’. 

I’ll get back to you on that one. 

Okay. Have you ever - When a band is that big, is it just like, is the vagina just hurled at you? Regardless of whether or not you partook.

Inter - So, this is something that is always assumed. And rightly so, it should be assumed. And normally that would be the case if you’re in a band and have that much influence and popularity. The tricky part was the dynamic was a little bit off because our lead singer was a girl. 


And she wasn’t like the party girl girl. She was like the good Catholic schoolgirl. So, um, we kind of - Over time, as she kind of saw what was happening, and let’s be honest, a lot of it had to do with her popularity. So the girls that would be there would be dressing like her, they had bindis and hair like her, all that stuff. I would be taking advantage of the situation and she would see that, and over time she started to kind of get bitter about it. 

Get bitter that the band was boning people who look like her? 

Well, yeah, and I think there was a night in particular where, um, she was watching Tony do something like that. 

Oh, okay.

And then it turned into, like, okay, we can’t really do that around her anymore. 

I get it.

So the dynamics - Because I mean, you think about it, she - The messages in the songs were, you know, well, Just A Girl’s like girl empowerment and all this stuff, and then we’re like slaying bitches backstage. It’s not a good look. 

You’re right.

You know. 

I found it so interesting because didn’t you guys open up with Just a Girl at the Super Bowl? And this is like the least girl audience ever, and you guys just fucking nailed it. That was one of the best sets I’ve ever seen. And I was surprised because weeks or months earlier, you guys toured with the Goo Goo Dolls, right? 


I saw you with the Goo Goo Dolls in Detroit at the Palace. I don’t know if you saw me. We hadn’t met, but I was there. And I was wearing - 

You were in Row 13 - 


Seat 24.

Seat 24. That’s my seat.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember. 

I’d never seen anything like it. I’d never seen - Like she’s a freight train. She is wonderful to watch. 

It’s interesting. Like I said earlier, I saw them - I used to see them play like the local clubs in Berkeley or San Francisco or whatever. And I remember - I actually played with them when I was in high school. 


Not with them. But my band, my high school band, the first band I ever played with, we played a show with them. Funnily enough they remembered me, probably because I was very energetic onstage. But the next time I saw them it was like, like something happened to her. Or she went through some kind of like transformation. And it was like, I’d never never seen anything like that. And it was kind of more pointed because she’s a girl. And she had that much command and aggressiveness. She’d kind of do the cutesy thing and then just flip the switch and then the guys were like [makes noise] and it was, there’s something - Inadvertently, I would say, I think just randomly, accidentally or serendipitously, she touched on this kind of psychological trick. It’s like secretly most men want to be kind of like dominated. Slapped around. Or just like, you know, that’s a fantasy, you know what I’m saying. So she would lure you with that the femininity and the ‘oh, demure and [mumbles]’ and then [makes aggressive noise] ‘Fuck you!’ And it was just this kind of mindfuck, you know. And she really kind of cultivated a great stage persona using those psychological tricks. But that one show I saw and I was like, woah, this is not the same band I saw. Something happened. 

It was super impressive to me. Very impressive live. She’s the only person, I think, in the history of rock music who’s used her tummy as a weapon. You know what I mean. And it was one of the things where that, the abs, for an outsider perspective, were part of the band. 


Like she never not in a half shirt. Ever.

I mean, yeah, she was, she had the little wifebeater cutoff. But her abs got actually more defined the older she got. Cos she was, she actually was a little bit chunkos in her teenage years. 

Yeah, I remember hearing that.

Yeah. And she, now she’s like svelte, whatever. But she kind of eventually, they got more and more kinda gangster as the years went on.

All that jumping around onstage, though. And I would see her doing push-ups and stuff.

Oh yeah.

So intense. She was like one of the coolest frontwomen. There was Britney and there was Christina and then there was Gwen, who was just, she was the cool girl.

Yeah. Well, those girls kind of came, they were like manicured from like Disney or the Mickey Mouse Club. They were groomed, right. But she wasn’t really groomed. They were like playing clubs. They played shows in Bakersfield for like ten punk kids and they’d be spitting on them the whole time. So they were forged in a different crucible. It wasn’t like in a rehearsal studio. This was like various experiences and having the background they did kind of made them that unique thing and made her unique as a performer. Yeah. Um, those girls, when you see them, it’s like everything is perfect. Or they have the dance moves and everything. But that was like a real band. 


It’s not like an artist and a bunch of managers or something like that. 

It felt like - Last thing on her. It just felt as if like she would be fantastic at darts and pool and also really good at ballroom dancing and she’d be great at making clothes and all that other stuff but at the same time, she would fuck you in the face with her elbow if you said something wrong. 

Yeah, she’s kind of gangsta. I remember we had this, we were playing this St Barts - Yeah, we were playing in St Barts - I don’t know if you’re familiar, it’s like the rich playground in the Caribbean islands. But we had to, we couldn’t stay there because they’d made the reservation too late, so we had to stay in St Martaan. Point of the story is that we had to get a boat over and play this New Year’s Eve gig, but it was like, the weather was terrible and it was like the worst boat ride of my life. Adrian’s like laying down, he popped a Dramamine. Tony’s wife is crying. I’m freaking out. Cos I’ve always liked doing crazy shit and I’m thinking, like, when you start making crazy scenarios in your head, like when the ship goes down, you’re planning your escape route, you know. Like if the boat goes over that way, I’m gonna jump that way. You know. I was sitting right next to Gwen right in front of the dude driving the boat, and I’m going, ‘Damn, this shit don’t bother you?’ She’s like, ‘I like it rough.’ 

Oh my god.

She got a little gangsta in her. Everyone else was like, ‘Man, this all over,’ and she was like, ‘This is fun’. I was like, there’s something wrong wit you. 

When you guys were, when it was huge-huge versus now, what’s the difference between the rider? When you guys were killin’ it verse a much calmer, when you do Vegas residency with her? Like - 

The rider?

The rider. Is there, [are] the riders similar, are they chill now? What was the craziest rider stuff? Did you have a cool rider? I guess I just like to say the word rider. 

Rider, yeah. It’s like a rock lore thing, like the whole m and ms thing.

Did you have to have Fireball at every show? 

Yeah, we did like Jack. I think we always had Jack Daniels, we always had vodka, and we always had a tequila. And actually after the Rock Steady album, rum, because they made that album in Jamaica, so that was like in the thing. We had a traveling disco party that we would travel with. Like we’d get a room - Cos we’d play like these arenas or venues, whatever, but we’d get a room and they would set up a disco. We brought turntables.

Oh my god, that’s awesome.

And then we’d have like real after show parties, right. So it was my job - and I would go the security guard and I’d go like this. Right. And they’d just give me a stack of backstage passes. After show passes. And so I would go out into the venue and I was like, ‘Any one want to go?’ But it was great because a lot of the times, the girls were like, all they’d see is a strange black guy walking towards them and they’d go - Cos you’d like roll up on a girl, like her initial reaction’s gonna be like, Yo. But I got some confidence, I didn’t give a fuck. I’d just be like, ‘Hey, you guys wanna party with the band backstage after the show?’ And they’d be like, ‘Uh. Who, what.’ And then I’d just pull them out. And if they were cool, I’d be like, ‘here you go’. But I actually got it down to the science where I would stand next to the girls bathroom. Cos I was like - 

That’s kinda creepy.

Yeah, but I didn’t care. I was like, I’m not here to try and not be creepy. I’m just like I got fifteen minutes to do this or whatever. So I would give all the passes and then they’d come back and we, we’d have a good time. And then things would happen after that but, you know, that’s a different story. 

Okay. So vodka, tequila, some rum. Whiskey. Okay. And now, is there, there’s no traveling after party in Vegas, is there? Is it corporate almost? 

It’s a different vibe, yeah. 

So it’s not even like, you’re playing a big size room, right?

Mm-hmm. Yep, pretty big size room.

And you’re going back in July, July 4th, right? The weekend of?

Yes. Ish. 

And how long’s your run there? Like your residency’s a couple of months at a time? 

Yeah, that’s been going on off and on since summer of last year. Does living in Vegas suck or is it fun? Or is it both?

That’s an interesting question. Uh, well, number one, depending on when you go there. So when I go there in July, it’s going to be horrible. 

Right, cos it’s going to be really hot. 

Hot is not even a - That’s not a fair way to describe Vegas. It’s an inferno. 110 degrees outside. It’s terrible. 

And then you gotta have your A/C at 60 and it’s not even going to feel like anything.

And the thing is you try to be like, ‘Okay, I’m gonna get of the hotel for a little bit. I’m going to try, like, not just -‘ I mean, you gotta pool. But it’s just, you’re just walking on the concrete and you’re like, it’s fucking horrible. I can literally go like one block and then be like, I’m turning around. This is bullshit. Maybe at three in the morning, that’s when you want to  walk around. But still, you’re on the Strip. Where do you really want to walk to? I’m like, oh, I’m going to walk to the Flamingo. Cos you walk there, it’s the same thing that you’ve just kind of walked from. 

Everything’s the exact same. It’s like forty of the exact same building. 

Yeah. And people are like, ‘Oh, let’s go to blank blank.’ And I’m like, ‘Why?’

The first time that she and I went to Vegas, she was like, we were walking through the streets back to our hotel and I’m just beelining, cos I’m just like, get the fuck back to the hotel. And she’s like, ‘I’ve never been here before! I want to see stuff!’ 

I’m hanging back, just like looking up at all - It was so exciting. 

100%. And I was like I respect that, I did it. Let’s look at the tower. Let’s do this. Whatever. But being there - 

Staying at a casino for an entire week, you get so bored. 

But you’re there for months. 

I don’t gamble, so.

The first time I was there, it was six weeks. And that was… I got stir crazy like the last two weeks. Then I started kind of losing it. It got a little weird. 

Okay. When you’re there, how long are the shows?

Shows are ninety minutes. 

Do you do meet and greets after or no?

She does like a meet and greet before. But, um, we’re - It’s really her thing, so nobody else is obligated to do any of that stuff. 

Does that Blake dude hang out?

Blake sometimes hangs out, yeah. Like usually he’ll come out like in the beginning of a run or at the end of a run. 


And um, he’s a nice guy. I always make him do tequila shots when I see him.

Does he drink as much as advertises that he drinks?

He’s always usually with like a lime-a-rita or something. It’s just like some terrible shit. And he’s wearing like Wranglers and a plaid shirt from Target. I’m like - 

And he’s so successful. 

Oh my god, how’d that guy get so rich. He’ll be like, ‘Stephen, I’m thinkin’ about buying a helicopter. What’d you think?’ And I’m like, ‘Yeah, motherfucker, you rich. Why don’t you gold plate that bitch?’ I mean, it’s so weird, cos it’s like, dude, that dude has more money than God and he’s like walking around in, like he just shopped at Montgomery Wards or something. 

He probably did.

And then the lime-a-rita. 

I mean, and he’s fine with it. And he’s got a red plastic cup cos Toby Keith sang about it, and that’s good enough for him. 

That is good for him. But like I said, I always punish him. I’m like, ‘We’re doing tequila’. And he’s like, ‘Well, you know, I don’t like tequila, Stephen.’ I’m like, ‘Doesn’t matter, Blake’. It’s hilarious. 

I remember when - One of the most memorable moments - I used to be a runner back in the day, and I was backstage. I was working, I wanna say it was Lollapalooza, but it might, it was some festival that Bush was headlining. And Gwen was dating Gavin at the time. 


And I remember backstage listening to this conversation. The band was over it, they were off the road, they wanted to be done. And then the tour manager came back and goes, ‘Well, here’s the deal. Here’s the fact. You guys can do two or three more gigs. You can each buy a house with that money.’ He goes. ‘Or we can stop now because you’re tired.’ And I was like watching it going, this is a real problem? This is a thing? 


This situation? 


And they were like, ‘Fine, we’ll do another week.’ And I’m like - 


I made a hundred bucks today. It’s nuts.

Yeah. I mean - 

It’s crazy. Alright, rapid fire questions cos we’re running to the end.


You’re amazing, you’ve been the best trumpet player I’ve ever had at this table.

Oh my god, this guy.

Okay. You’re ready? 


Groupies: easier now or easier before #metoo? 

Easier before #metoo.

Way easier.

Oh my god.

Do you think - Do groupies still exist? 

Yeah, groupies will always exist. Groupies are like air and blue jeans. 

Are you more reluctant to - 

That’s great. [laughs]

Is it like a different approach to groupies now?

Um, I, I might, I’m probably a little bit out of the groupie game, per se. You know. Groupies is more like, it’s kind of a young man’s game in a certain sense. Like a young, emerging band or a big seller. Like for me, it’s like, in Vegas it’s like MILFs, cougars, you know. And it’s groupies but - Um…

It’s perfect. Because you can hit it and then they’ve got somewhere to be. 

Yeah, I’m almost like, I’m retired from that game. I’m almost like self-retired, because I don’t wanna - I kind of know the game too well. I had to put myself into like the legends category, you know what I’m saying. I’m chillin’ like a little retirement competition, if that makes sense. 

It’s definitely - Whenever I tour with like Russell and there’s like, ‘What’s it like backstage?’ And I’m like, ‘Well, I got Kentucky Fried Chicken. And there’s cookies there.’

But listen, I’ve been to Comedy Store, I’ve been, I’ve seen comic groupies. They, that’s a thing. I didn’t realize that until I - I’m like, oh you motherfuckers have groupies too. 

I know, it’s crazy. They’re nuts. 


No. Um, this is Den specific. 


If you go to The Den and you’re successful with a lady and you bring her back to your place, do you have a go to song that you play? 

Like -

Perform. Get her in the mood.

I usually, if I’m really, really thirsty, I’ll play her one of my songs. Like on piano. 

You’ll play it on piano?

Yeah. That’s usually a home run. 

You never like take a compact disc and play -

Right. Sure. Let me get my CD player out. Um, you know what, I’ve found that - Obviously I’m a trumpet player, I like jazz, so Miles Davis.

Miles Davis?


Miles Davis on the recorded version and one of your own songs on live. Like those are your options. 

Yeah. Or Al Green. 

Al Green. 

Oh yes. Okay. 

It’s really out of those two. 

Would you ever be in a cover band with me where we only sang songs about Hostess desserts and we’d be called Tragic KingDong?

I’m kind of into snack foods and I actually fantasized and fetished about making an album devoted to snack foods. 

So this is like a maybe? 

That’s a definite maybe. 

Maybe. That’s good. We’re probably going to get an answer right around the time we get an answer to the time you saw me in Row 13, Seat 24. 

Sure, sure.

That’s great. What are you most proud of as an accomplishment of being a musician? That is completely not the band you’ve played with for twenty-three years related. What are you most proud of doing on your own?

Most proud of. Uh. 


Yeah. Um, I put out an EP a number of years ago and, um, it was actually the first time that I put out a solo EP, a record. Like four songs, but it was - It had my name on it, so. 


That was pretty awesome. 

That’s cool. Is that one of the songs that you play for the girl when you come back?

No, no, no.

That’s a deep-dive?

Yeah, that’s deep-dive. 

Okay, um, let’s see - Um, how long have you had a passion for photography? 

Um, since high school, actually. 


Yeah. I took a photography class back in high school back when there were, when it was film. And I consequently actually lost my virginity to the girl who sat behind me in that class. 

Aww. Nice.

What was that response for? Um, okay. Did - Oh, that’s what I was going to ask you. Oh frogs. I can’t remember - 

Are you working on anything right now that you’d like to promote?

Yeah. I have a video that I just finished. Cos I shot some of it and I edited some of it and I’m going to be releasing it. I was thinking of releasing it in the summer, but it’s kinda a fall/winter song, so. I might push back the release date. It’s a song called ‘To Be Honest’. It’s just a single.




That’s the way everything runs now, just singles. No albums. Singles. That’s what the kids do. 

You know that, all the record has to play is thirty seconds for you to get paid for it. 


On Spotify. 


As long, once it passes thirty seconds, you can hit fast forward because you get paid the half cent or whatever.

It’s a different world, Chris, it’s a different world. 

It’s crazy. Um, what is your social media so people can follow you?

Uh, good question. Instagram is sbradleymusic. 


Yep. And that’s kind of the one I hang out most at.

That’s the one you go to?


Alright, that’s cool. Now let’s see. So Super Bowl we covered. We covered pretty much everything. I think it’s great that you did the show. I wanna do, I still wanna do music with you.


We talked about, we talked about that a lot. But mostly whenever we see each other at The Den, it’s like, ‘Hey, what are you drinkin’?’ ‘Fireball.’ ‘Tequila’. ‘Cool’. Then we walk around and we kind of look around and then we both leave. 

Yeah. But I’ll have to give you credit. You’ve followed up on your ‘Hey, let’s do this’ and it actually happened. I played with you on the thing and then doing the podcast. So good for you. 

I’m very not LA.

That’s very a very rare quality. 

I’m liking it. Um, I think you answered pretty much everything. Um, so you’re going back to Vegas. How hard is it for people who drive out there from California to buzz or text you and ask for tickets? Or just to hang out afterwards? 

How hard is it? What do you mean? 

Is it diffic - 

Is it a bummer for me? 

Like - 

So you, you get comps? 

Oh, I see what you’re saying. Um, I can get comps, yes. It’s easier for me to do it if it’s not like the last show or it’s not like on a Saturday or something, like a holiday or something like that. But - 

What if it’s like the first weekend you go back? Just a hypothetical? 

It’s possible, yeah. I’ll make it happen. If it’s like two people, that’s super easy, yeah.

It’s two people.

Two people’s easy. 

It’s - 

He’s asking for us. 

Uh, yeah.

Hypothetically, yeah. I got a friend -

I’ve got a friend who’s me.

You’re good. I already told you you were good, dude.

Good, that’s good. Um, alright, Stephen, this is amazing. Thank you so much. You have any comments? Oh wait, I have to do my closing.


I have to do the promo stuff. Hey, thanks for listening, everybody.